Category: Crossing Over ¤ Author: Karen Pryor ¤ Title: The "Yes, but ...." ¤ Rob writes that various people are telling him that clicker training and OC won't produce dogs that can "handle the stresses" of advanced competition. (And correction-based training makes the dog more stress-free? Just wondering.) Rob goes on: I am looking for specific examples > of dogs with CDX, OTCh or field titles... Dear Rob, The "yes-but-" folks are a familiar event in the spread of this technology. Whatever is accomplished, they say yes but it wouldn't work in MY application. Clicker training for dogs simply hasn't been around long enough to develop OTCh dogs or field dog champions. Of course it will work, and better than traditional methods. Maybe you and your lab will be among the first C/T Top Dogs, so forge ahead! Three years from now clicker-trained champions will be showing up all over the place. Karen Pryor By the way, the uninformed skeptic or yes-butter is not limited to dog trainers. Two weeks ago I was fortunate to be given a tour of the New England Center for Children, where hundreds of children with autism and related disorders are given gentle and effective shaping, and in many cases make wonderful progress, through operant conditioning. Program director Myrna Libby (who clicker-trains her Goldens) told me, "First people used to say 'Well, it works with rats and pigeons, but it won't work with primates.' Then they'd say, 'Well, it works with primates but it won't work with people.' Now they say, 'Well, it works with the neurologically impaired but it won't work with normal children.' And so it goes... Just ignore it--training well is the best revenge! KP