Category: Advanced Stuff ¤ Author: Victoria Farrington ¤ Title: Cue as Thrill ¤ Wayne, YES! That's exactly what I was trying to say. It doesn't matter what the dog wants. It only matters that the dog learns the way to access what it wants is to hear the click, to wait for the cue. I really think this is what Karen Pryor meant in a post when she said the CUE ought to become a real thrill in itself. I learned this from 2 sources--someone who trains beagles to rabbit and something I remembered from my high school days. The beagle trainer uses check cords but only to teach the beagles that without his go ahead, they don't get to chase rabbits. He can eventually direct them in a field full of rabbits and they've been so successful following his direction and so unsuccessful when they did anything else that it's rare for one to quibble. (And people who hunt with beagles wait for years for 1 of his dogs.) The sight of the rabbit becomes a pre-cue. The beagle is listening for a go-ahead or the beagle is listening for anything that means DON'T go ahead. (He trains both ways for people who hunt in different areas and with different goals.) But its the cue, not the rabbit that matters. And while this is really off the wall...When Dash was a young pushy got-to-go-over-there kind of pup, I realized I was the bad guy about 80 percent of the time. He learned to identify restraint, to bolt, to catch me not paying attention. When I tried to reform myself, I remembered my friend Lee Anne. Her parents were terrified she'd turn into a "bad girl" so they didn't allow her to do anything. No. Verboten. No parties,no late nights, no boys. She could escape from a small house in the middle of the day. SHe was an accomplished liar. She did more than she might have because once she escaped, she was already in trouble if she got caught. Now my parents were more enlightened. They actually drove me to parties. I could call them for a ride home if I had a few drinks or if my ride home had a few drinks. They facilitated my teenaged social life and my dad was nice enough to pick us up, oh way way down the street from a cool party so no one knew my DAD provided my transportation. So I led a pretty blameless teenaged life while my friend Lee Anee became everything her parents had feared she'd become. My dogs are pretty clever at getting what they want. I don't want them to "lie" to me or see them sneaking off because sneaking off gets them what they want while interaction with me means they DON'T get it. So I continually try to out think them. Hey, come smell this! Whoah, here's a big hole in the ground! I want it to be more fun, more rewarding, more exciting to interact with me than to elude me. Iti's exactly the same thing as ignore me, no bird babe. Wait for the cue and you're up to your nose in birds. Plain old success and failure. But maybe more on their terms than ours? Now I really will shut up because I've probably worn out my modem. Victoria Farrington