Category: Advanced Stuff ¤ Author: Victoria Farrington ¤ Title: More on Choices ¤ I foster terriers, most of whom are much more excited by the possibilities of life until they learn the clicker game and even then there are soooo many things out there. This is something that has REALLY helped me figure out what I was doing wrong. Imagine you're in an exciting place. You have work to do, satisfying important work--herding, protecting, ratting, barking your fool head off. Or there's that cutie you'd really like to flirt with. Or there's a gossip session going on and its the kind of gossip that will make you gasp and giggle. Your phone rings. It's your best friend and she's saying, hey come have a piece of pie with me while we do stuff together. Now, you love your best friend, pie is good, and you DO like to do things with her. But you know you're leaving with her, you live with her, there are other chances for pie. Nonetheless, you leave your work, your flirting, your gossip and...guess what, your friend goes on and on and on. You eat so much pie you're blue in the face and that's okay but you miss the gossip, the cutie leaves, your work goes undone. So the next time your friend calls, you don't answer the phone. (You have caller i.d.) Or you hesitate--should I or shouldn't I? Or you think--well, pie is nice but I have work to do... My dogs seem to catch onto to EITHER/OR thinking given any chance at all. Either I do a recall and get something OR I go sniff those bushes and catch up on the gossip. If you try to do too much stuff with a dog too soon, you can turn PR's into something at least symbolic of -P--the dog is being denied cool dog stuff by doing what it does to get pie, so pie isn't so attractive. (I'm really not sure how the terminology applies here. This is pie-thinking!) I make their choises Lose/Lose or Win/Win. Hey Fido and he turns his head to look at me, click/pie and then an added bonus he gets to sniff the bush. Hey Fido, nada, and I just stand there while Fido gets neither pie nor a chance at the bush. To make a point, I usually take my terriers somewhere, give them 1 quick chance at responding to a cue and if they don't, we're back in the car so fast their heads spin. After several shots like this, they give in--and I'll take any attempt to interact with me when the dog is stubborn--and they get EVERYTHING. This has worked even with Dash and squirrels. I stood and stood and stood and waited while he watched squirrels, he finally got so impatient he turned and gave me desperate eyes, I clicked and held out food he didn't really want but pushed out of my hand to get rid of it and then we chased squirrels. (I offered the food until he could eat it so that he'd learn there were multiple PR's available when squirrels were in sight and so the food wasn't linked to my denial of squirrel chasing.) When they aren't losing anything by taking the PR, when one of the available PR's is what they want to do, they don't compare activities and if you play your cards right, they have no idea they can just go sniff that bush without c/ting AND they don't differentiate between cool doggie stuff and stuff they do with you. I feel inarticulate at the moment so I hope this makes some sense. I was unintentionally teaching my dogs to reject food by c/ting and then trying to get more out of them. Just an idea. Victoria Farrington