Category: Advanced Stuff ¤ Author: Gary Wilkes ¤ Title: When To Click With No Treat ¤ Dani Weinberg writes: > I'd like to know more about this unconventional practice - Dani, Look at the Click & Treat Training Kit, again - it's all there, in what has been called an "entertaining" view of the topic. I've heard the production values aren't too bad, either. On a more serious note -- arbitrary rules may help beginners to lay a foundation, but to get to the next level, it is the animal's behavior that dictates the rules, not the trainer. It is tempting to ignore the real foundation of clicker training (behaviorism) which ignores supposed mental states (Won't it confuse the dog if you don't give a treat after the click?) , and focuses on WHAT is happening.(The dog attempted the behavior again, with more force.) To really master the application of operant conditioning, it requires adherence to a larger, softer rule -- "reality dictates methodology." A valid question to ANY rule is "How come?". When people suggest that the click must ALWAYS be followed by a treat, my question is "How come?" If their reasoning is that you must develop a firm association between the conditioned reinforcer and the primary, they are correct. However, it often means that they will do a great job of creating a conditioned reinforcer -- and a limited job of actually using it. When Karen and I started doing seminars together, she used to take the time to click and treat for non-specific behavior, to make a proper link.(The rule of thumb in the marine world) My business required that I do it on the fly -- (The rule of thumb in applied behavior modification) neither one is "correct" as an absolute -- it is merely in context that one can evaluate them as "appropriate" and "functional". So, the "click without a treat" can act as a particular type of information, and as a trigger for variability - but there is no way to know if it is "correct" or not unless you tie it to a context, and evaluate it against how the animal's behavior changes. I can tell you that I have never seen a dog's brain fall out, or attempt suicide as a result of this practice, so, as in many other instances, clicker training is a very forgiving process, and you can feel free to experiment. Regards, Gary Wilkes