Category: Advanced Stuff, Common Problems ¤ Author: Victoria Farrington ¤ Title: Leaving Yucky Stuff (i.e. Making Better Choices) ¤ I must admit I doddered on for some time without really understanding the beauty of the dog making choices until I read something by Morgan Spector in which he wrote of reinforcement history. It was a big brain-thwacking AHA because the following was going on at the time: My dogs are greedy and opportunistic and I take them hiking and to parks where a lot of nasty food like chicken bones lie around on the ground. I wanted to teach them to spurn available food. Telling them NO didn't really work because they're fast, their faces were right down there with the food and 1 ate a rock once just because I was coming to take it away from her. SO I started over again. I put yucky food like potato peels or uncooked pasta on the floor. As the dogs moved in, I said "here" which was a cue they knew in other circumstances. (Later I decided the cue was stupid and dropped it, but this is how I began.) And when I said "here" I put a target stick or my foot in front of the charging dog. They were used to targeting my foot so they didn't see this as an aversive. More often than not I actually bumped or poked them with my foot or target stick but contact with the target, however it happened, equalled click and wonderful food. I increased the distance they had to come away from yucky food to touch the target, then we did this in many other locations. When I put food of more value on the floor, I started up close again. During this time, yes, my dogs sometimes did choose to snatch 1 piece of cheese from the floor instead of coming away for 10. A friend was appalled by this. Her own idea is that one must always stop a dog from making the wrong choice or the dog will always regard the wrong choice as an option. My belief was that sheer repetition of getting better stuff for coming away would become both a habit and they could probably restrain themselves when what was available was pretty darn heavenly. SHe told me it would NEVER work. Just to be annoying, she decided to prove her point before I considered myself finished with the training. SHe put a cheese sandwich on the floor and walked away. Shiva (AKA The Imp of Satan) gave us exactly 28 seconds before she snatched up that sandwich BUT as she was running off with it, I said "here" and she stopped, hesitated and slowly dropped it, watching me closely to see if I had something better. I made a fist which held her attention, took the sandwich, whooped it up and gave her a big chunk of cheese. (all cheese being preferable). And to be fair, 28 seconds is a long time for Shiva to hesitate before snatching. With the other 2 dogs, it worked even better. (We did this 1 dog at a time to avoid the "he did it" angle or competition which tends to send everything stomach-ward.) These 2 are my sweet stoics. Dash actually barked while sitting in front of the sandwich because no one was looking at him and he wanted us to SEE what a good boy he was. Samson sniffed the sandwich, thought about it, then turned and gave a big paw thump to the nearest foot. It holds up even better in the real life situations for which it was intended--they turn and sometimes whoof when they come across chicken bones and old burgers, they have bulit in hesitation at every step and they seem to be just dying to hear me call them away. As I said, I dropped the verbal cue so now they just turn when they find stuff and I inspect it. True, they're not finding big hunks of rare sirloin but I didn't think they would. More to the point, when Vivian was having trouble with her pup not coming away from other dogs, I suggested she have the other dogs do a down if the pup ignored her. The options then were "run to Mum" or hang around boring immobile dogs. I'd seen my father do this with his setters but I'd never done it myself so I took my dogs to a friend's farm where 4 out of 5 labs drop like stones. Dash went tearing off toward his pals, I gave a recall cue, he glanced back (more "you've got to be kidding!" than any thought of responding, I imagine) and my friend downed her dogs. Poor Dash. He couldn't understand it. His pals were slabs of labs. (is it my breath? Have I lost my charm?) When they were clearly not going to fall for the sweet nothings he cooed in their ears (YAP,YAP, GET UP!), I called him again. This time he came. Sure, why not, nobody else wants me. It was too good to be true because the labs were clicker trained as well: the same click that told Dash he was "doing the right thing" released his pals. In about 3 trips to the farm, interspersed with other fun stuff, Dash would come away from even lab games because it was all win/win if he did, lose/lose if he persisted and the labs were downed, plus I ran off into the distance with whatever else he might have earned. (Me running away was not a fear/safety concern for Dash. He occasionally regards my absence as a virtual jackpot, being a busy terrier boy with many non-human type things to do.) And it works with other dogs, even those incapable of doing a down. If he comes away, he can often go back. If he doesn't, I'll go get him. No +P, just my apppearance. (Like Mom showing up at a cool party in her slippers and housecoat--suddenly, it's not fun at all.) And of course, I mean it's -P. Not answering a recall means he has no chance to doing whatever he thought was so fascinating. I've even managed to do this to some extent with squirrels and rabbits. No leash jerks, just denial. It can take a while but my notion is that if the dog learns to make the right choice, it won't end up opportunistic and even sneaky. Some dogs are very quick to understand the limitations of punishment. Probably a few million dogs easily understand that the rules that apply when they're on leash, in the yard or in reach suddenly have no meaning when they're not. I don't have much use for a recall when my dogs are on leash. (well, I do sometimes.) I don't need a dog who drops food when I'm close enough to grab it away from him. I could just rely on the leash or grab the food away. I do need my dogs to willfully come and refrain from gulping when there's no way I can stop them. Showing them the poor choices they can make may not result in perfect results but I don't believe in perfect results anyway. Then again, maybe we're not there yet. Important behaviors like recalls and "don't eats" strike me as life long works in progress, however you're training them. Just some thoughts. Victoria Farrington